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12:40 AM
Geeze, this place died. Not even active when all of SO goes down.
 
12:58 AM
:crickets:
 
1:32 AM
@DanGrossman day 1: "jump!" cricket with both legs jumped 3 feet, day 2: "jump" cricket with one leg chopped off jumped 2 feet, day 3: "jump" cricket with no legs didnt't move "I said JUMP" conclusion: it seems crickets with no legs lose the ability to hear
well, I did my best to break the ice... but I guess we are doomed
:crickets:
 
That doesn't bode well if we can't even break ice in the middle of summer. Winter is coming, we'll never be prepared in time!
 
1:47 AM
WINTER IS COMING!
 
:)
Hmm, what was I supposed to be doing tonight...
 
Anonymous
@TimStone Do you have email notifications enabled?
 
I do not
 
Anonymous
That's fantastic news! Exciting!
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
(Also note, for those who want to poke around, that this seems to be the only site running on the dev network that isn't restricted.)
 
Huh, interesting :o
 
Anonymous
2:50 AM
"isn't restricted" is a bit of a mis-statement, it should have been "has the beta access key publicly available".
 
@TimStone: Bugs, please fix.. Hehe.
Wow, I just tried to pronounce that title...
 
3:23 AM
Oh hey, this place is less dead than my browser let on.
Tempted to go to this question and edit most of the answers to "I didn't read the question either!"
 
3:42 AM
Browsers are liars. And princess kidnappers.
 
 
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Anonymous
5:04 AM
*Dramatic explosion of power.*
 
Anonymous
6:00 AM
*After an hour-long eye-searing spectacle, the explosion fades.*
 
6:12 AM
hello my esteemed colleagues
 
 
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Anonymous
7:17 AM
Next time I'll see if I can pull off dramatic timing as well...
 
9:24 AM
Hello everybody. My name is Bart and ..... I'm a snarker.
 
 
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11:40 AM
Hi!! Anybody home??
 
12:02 PM
Oy o/
 
@MaitreyaDwaipayan Nope, nobody here.
 
@Bart That's good. The first step is admitting you're powerless over snarkiness.
 
@jadarnel27 Shame it's removed though. Was a fun one.
And dare I say "justified"?
 
@Bart What did it say?
 
There was a weird answer with a comment from the user stating "fkasdjfuate" or something like that
To which I replied "Excellent comment, but you might want to say that in English. Not everybody speaks "weird" as well as I do"
 
12:21 PM
That is funny.
 
@rlemon uhoh, as soon as the words "source code" and "interesting" are combined, alarmbells do ring...
 
lol
I like to pretty up my source with ascii drawings
 
12:37 PM
Haha, ah. That was not as much of a face-punchable offence as some of the "interesting" code I've seen come across.
 
 if (x == true) return true; // Function returns true if x is true
 
Well, you can't be certain enough, can you.
 
function isTrue (x) {
    if (x == true) {
         return true; // Function returns true if x is true
    } else {
        return false; // Function returns false if x is not true
    }
}
 
o_O
 
12:53 PM
Please tell me there is also an isFalse(x)
 
if( 2+2===4 ) { // ensure math works.
 
const PI = 3.14; // This makes it easy to update the code in case the value of pi ever changes
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rlemon.github.com/ROT13JS (the real fun is in the source code)
 
hello there
i just wanna know why people downvote my question ?
 
1:01 PM
What's the question?
 
-4
Q: Prevent Application Crash

NealIs it possible to prevent application crash ? In many applications i experience many crash but sometimes Its really tough to find the reason of crash and it becomes time consuming to find the solution. I just wanna know is there any code snippet which can give you what are the crash reasons or...

 
@Neal It's not very specific. That could be part of the reason. Also, it doesn't read as though you've done a lot of research on the subject of error trapping / exception handling.
 
I can see where you're going with the question, but asking "Is it possible to prevent application crash ?" will only ever have one answer: "Write code that doesn't crash". It seems you're trying to find an easy way out without addressing the issue and putting in the necessary effort. Not saying that is the case, but that's how your question reads.
 
There is quite a bit of information and discussion on those topics online (blog posts, posts here on SO, articles, etc). You should check through those, and then come back and ask specific questions if you have any.
 
thanks @Bart @jadarnel27
 
1:08 PM
No problem. Just my two cents.
 
Two? I just put in one. You just like to flaunt your wealth don't you?
 
Haha, two answers and still open...well played. There should be a badge for that.
 
Haha, indeed. Just found that via the close votes review queue.
 
 
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2:27 PM
@Shog9 Yeah, I did think of that. But it gets referenced here enough that it qualifies for honorary citizenship.
@jadarnel27 That's incredible! How'd he get the "Hi" past the automatic salutation stripper?
 
There's a stripper on Stack Overflow?
 
2:42 PM
@PopularDemand Good question. I was thinking it only strips the salutation when it's on a line by itself. Does that sound right?
Was that enough ambiguous "it"s? I think so.
 
@jadarnel27 You are correct, sir. (Also, here's the regex for reference.)
 
@PopularDemand Glad to hear I'm not crazy. I knew I had read that regex on here before.
 
3:30 PM
I have a question based on this question on MSO and its accepted answer. Would we allow a "How do I do X?" question (which is essentially "give me teh codez") if it is then self-answered with that code? I would say we wouldn't.
 
@Bart I'd say it depends on how it's asked. t3h codez questions suck because they're not easily searchable, not very helpful when found and in many cases not even really instructive for the OP (teaching fishing vs. giving fish). The self-answering component mitigates the waste of the community's time, but doesn't solve the real problems. But I'd stop just short of blanket banning all "snippet questions" because I suspect there are a few, rare, good exceptions out there.
 
@PopularDemand Yeah, I was not suggesting to be trigger happy on nuking such things. But the accepted answer on the question I linked to suggests a "How can I do X" format for the self-answered question. Which I think is dangerous at best and should not really be the form used.
 
Ah, I didn't read the accepted answer. Yeah, I think we're actually on the same page.
 
3:47 PM
Okay, good. Just for my own clarification. I would hate to slap people around who do so, only to find out it's perfectly fine. ;)
 
Don't make stuff up, @Bart. You wouldn't really hate to slap people around.
 
It's the "finding out" part that would bother me, not the "slapping around". That I would actually enjoy no matter the circumstances. At just below 6'7" it's actually my reason to live...
 
Ha. You should have become a bouncer rather than a "research assistant".
From what I know of researchers*, I'm sure the pay's about the same =P
 
Use the politically correct name.
 
*This is actually nothing. I know nothing about researchers.
 
3:55 PM
It's "science bitch".
 
I fear the bouncers here might win that actually
 
Hahaha
 
@mootinator I shall update my Careers profile this instant
 
Oh hey, I may have won a bet.
I just need to see a doctor to confirm :/
 
That doesn't sound like the kind of bet you want to win.
 
4:02 PM
I was just going to say that.
 
Now that's positive news... <--- that works in both ways
Good, that was my inappropriate comment for the day. I'm off slapping people around.
 
Me: "I bet this rash on my hand is scabies. That's an odd thing to get." Wife: "I doubt it." Me: "Well, we'll see in a few weeks whether it leaves tracks or not."
More than you needed to know*
 
Ooh, let's all share slightly-embarrassing personal facts. Quick, everyone else go first.
 
Anonymous
4:25 PM
I developed a weird rash on my hand when I first ventured into Saskatchewan.
 
If a question is attracting lots of low-quality answers by new users, is it okay to protect it?
 
Anonymous
The air in those prairies must have it out for us programmers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Depends on what you mean by "low-quality." If spam or "AM HAVNG SAME PRBLM" then yes.
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Q: What is a “protected” question?

waiwai933Questions can be protected. What does it mean for a question to be protected? Who can protect a question? Who can answer a protected question? Return to FAQ index

@TheElementofMagic We doctors call that kind of rash congelatio.
 
Anonymous
Hmm... I think I managed to avoid that, though it felt like a near thing at times.
 
@PopularDemand Ah, ok. I was talking about that kind of short answers that don't really add much to the existing ones, months after a comprehensive answer was already accepted.
 
Anonymous
4:30 PM
We don't get -45°C (-49°F) weather at home.
 
I never really used the "protect" feature so I thought I'd ask before I messed up.
 
* Note: my doctorate is not an MD, or a DO, or a DDS, or a DPM, or a real degree from an actual accredited institution.
 
@PopularDemand So you're like Dr. Pepper, then?
Dr. PeppularDemand.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes One or two of those doesn't really call for protection, I think. Maybe it would if there are enough such answers that the question keeps getting bumped to the front page on a lower-traffic site.
 
5:00 PM
@TheElementofMagic lol
The problem with rushing to a clinic doctor to show them a symptom is they prescribe an anti-fungal corticosteroid for anything resembling a skin problem.
 
You want to fix it? I thought you wanted to win a bet.
 
Nah.
I'd rather not get actual annoying symptoms before it gets fixed.
 
5:30 PM
@jadarnel27 I was going to make a "Dr. Demand" joke, since it has a nice catch and made me think of "Doctor Doom", but I will accept this as a valid substitute
 
@TimStone That one just makes me think Peppular Potts
Reality sucks.
 
@Bart if you're going to leave comments telling misguided MSO askers that they actually want SO, I humbly suggest linking to some sort of FAQ or quality guidelines page as well. Otherwise they're just going to repost their indecipherable questions on SO, where they will get insta-closed again. Everyone loses.
 
5:45 PM
this guy had an interesting proposal, but he totally ruined with certain keywords that lead to massive downvotes:
"This is kind of a two part ordeal so bear with me here", "If so, sorry for wasting your time", "...this question can be closed", "I'm not in any way stating that there should"+an absurd idea (the brain when thinking of absurd ideas while reading an question might consider the question absurd as well)
 
@TimStone Ah, I like Dr. Demand as well. It's appropriate that Pops should be a super villain or mad scientist.
 
@jadarnel27 Mad Scientist is taken, you insensitive clod!
 
@PopularDemand You rang?
But yeah, no need to be humble about it. Answered from my mobile. I should know better than that. I usually do leave a reasonable link or instruction (I think).
Point taken
 
Yeah... now I'm trying to decide which of the 500 quality-related posts to show this guy and it's making me think we may have too many.
Ugh. In that case, I salute your incredible effort. I once logged in on my phone just to see what it was like, but I don't want to think about trying to actually use the site primarily via the mobile interface.
 
Upvoting comments from my Android's browser is the worst.
 
5:54 PM
Upvoting comments from my Android's ---browser is ---the worst.
 
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A: Putting the "How to Ask" block "in the face" of the user when posting for the first time?

Adam DavisBut just in case Jeff decides to go for your first suggestion, I've already done some of the work for him:

 
Screw you chat.
 
Aww, the... "highlight"... of the post didn't onebox.
 
@mootinator Ugh. You probably have an iWhatever-thing.
 
It just didn't want to say what I wanted it to.
I have a Windows Phone.
All of you Apple/Google people are hipsters.
ALL OF YOU
That's right. I'm insane.
 
5:57 PM
Everything you said after "Windows Phone" was so unimportant that I forgot to read it.
Force of habit.
 
Now I have to print out my Groupon for a latte.
 
I just remembered an incredibly minor bug I noticed the other day while using the close vote dialog on the mobile UI.
I have no idea how to take screenshots on my Droid. To Google!
 
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A: How to take a screenshot with an Android device?

Bryan DennyIf you're rooted: you can install an app called drocap2. This will let you shake your phone, wait on a timer, or click on a notification in your notification bar to take a screenshot and it'll save it to your phone. If you're not rooted: you can not run a screenshot app on your phone, period. Yo...

 
oh no, I did a terrible mistake, anyone knows how to make the chat welcome box appear again after removing it? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/143971/…
 
@PopularDemand I'm making an unpleasant face because I'm in the second category (not rooted, not Android 4.0+)
 
6:09 PM
Well then, it's your fault for not avoiding smartphones until Ice Cream Sandwich.
 
nevermind, it seems it is cookie based meta.stackoverflow.com/a/121629/179635
do you think it is rude to delete a post before being closed as duplicate and wait 2 days to delete? I just did that, I hope is not wrong
 
6:26 PM
no, it's a good thing
 
6:43 PM
@PopularDemand See the unpleasant face I'm making?! It is unpleasant to others as well!
May 9 at 19:43, by mmyers
Somebody actually flagged you a while back to complain about the "disturbing" picture. I think they had the impression that you were trying to look menacing or something.
 
Heh, I use CyanogenMod which has a screenshot feature built into the power button menu.
 
7:29 PM
wants a tag badge already.
 
This question has "plzsendt3hcodez" as a bounty reason.
 
Haha epic!
@mootinator: for SO or MSO?
 
ANY SITE
It's been almost two yeeears.
Two years of not really answering a whole lot of questions should make me a shoe-in.
On SO I don't have enough upvotes, and on MSO I don't have enough posts. Heh.
 
It's pretty easy to get one on SO for certain tags
*cough* *cough*
 
@mootinator On Meta, you have 113 upvotes for a single answer to an old Pollyanna joke question. That alone nearly qualifies you for a tag badge. Just reply to a few more FRs with answers that are not terrible and you're golden. Er, bronze. (Sorry, it wasn't intended to be a joke when I wrote "golden," then I couldn't resist.)
 
7:41 PM
@PopularDemand I suspect that would go over better than trying to round out my postcount.
 
8:30 PM
@ThiefMaster: If you know about it then yes...
Can new user (rep = 1) comment on questions and answers in their own questions?
 
> Please note that you can always comment on your own posts, and any part of your questions. However, commenting on other people's posts is a privilege.
 
@nhahtdh I don't know. Just throw a bunch of dollar signs, periods, and parentheses into the answer box. You'll probably get hit with a few stray upvotes from the torrents that rain upon those answers.
 
is pretty much ready to stab his screen.
 
@mootinator I think that ends up costing you the internet
 
Anonymous
@Shog9 Mathoverflow wouldn't be excepted from the reputation bonus, correct? (If you can say. Maybe there are still secret discussions ongoing.)
 
Anonymous
8:41 PM
Perhaps I'm asking the wrong person.
 
@TheElementofMagic what are you asking?
 
Anonymous
@jcolebrand Mathoverflow is (probably) finally joining Stack Exchange 2.0. Some of their members have expressed concerns with Stack Exchange users getting free reputation on Mathoverflow from the association bonus.
 
@TheElementofMagic it's 100 rep. They can choose to not join the stacks, I guess.
 
Anonymous
@jcolebrand It's voting rights on a site that 99.9% of Stack Exchange users won't even be able to understand the questions on.
 
@TheElementofMagic voting rights for what?
Upvotes?
 
Anonymous
8:44 PM
Yes.
 
@TheElementofMagic what? huh?
 
Has the site got any users over 125 rep already?
 
Anonymous
Mathoverflow is very intent on keeping their quality high. Having randoms from the network upvotes those few questions that they can understand is an influence they'd probably want to do without. (Again disclaimer that I don't know enough to put words in their mouths; this is just how I feel.)
 
Why does Jeremy Banks have fruity ponies and new name now too? Someday, I'm gonna track down TheTXI and make him pay for all this.
 
Anonymous
8:46 PM
I don't mean to argue about this on their behalf, they've had years of discussing stuff with SE staff, I was just curious if any decision has been reached.
 
@TheElementofMagic I don't know. My initial guess would be "yes". And also, if they haven't already brought that up, SHHH!
 
> Unless explicitly mentioned otherwise in this agreement, MathOverflow will operate like any other Stack Exchange site.
I'm going to guess that they accepted the proposal from Joel, outright, without modification?
 
Anonymous
@jcolebrand Not yet. They mentioned that a "no ads" term is going to be added, for example, so it's possible that other changes might also yet be made.
 
@TheElementofMagic I thought the 2.0 sites didn't do ads, anyways
(which would mean "no problem")
 
Anonymous
I'm re-reading one of their discussions from a year ago, I'm not bringing up a new idea. I guess I'll keep my mouth shut about it outside of here, just to be safe.
 
Anonymous
8:49 PM
@jcolebrand In this old discussion they also expressed concern about the intra-network ads that SE2.0 sites do have, not just the commercial ads.
 
@TheElementofMagic ah, well, I'm sure that's just a matter of "leave that block out of the views"
@TheElementofMagic nobody said "keep your mouth shut", but you are the one that came here, bringing it to our attention, and I like to stay up as current as I can on network minutiae
 
Anonymous
@jcolebrand That was a response to Shog's comment about not bringing it up if it's a new idea, and was meant to be light-hearted.
 
Anonymous
@Shog9 You can blame Aarthi for motivating this particular change, by her avatar.
 
@TheElementofMagic oooooh
Just to be clear: From his comments Henry Cohn seems to be a giant cock. I'll back that up with this logic: He doesn't know about the fact that SE encourages sites to develop their own identity and culture, and just assumes that every site is made to work like clockwork, then gets upset that he doesn't know if SE will allow the site to keep their own culture. He already has his mind made that the site runs just fine, and there's no potential to an upgrade.
He also doesn't understand how migrations work on 2.0 sites, again, because he has no clue of the current network.
> I haven't liked the culture when I've participated in it
There are a few meta-trolls who have had this same expression of disgust
 
@TheElementofMagic @aarthi THIS WILL NOT DO!
 
8:57 PM
Not "I've tried to get along and at every corner I'm shunned and encounter assholes and trolls" because then we have only to ask why he didn't come to meta.
 
Anonymous
There are some people who seem a tad... reactionary. However, Anton and the other moderators sound very reasonable (If I'm right about who are the moderators, at least.).
 
The moderators, by and large, are cool. The rest of the site...
 
brony five
 
Anonymous
@Aarthi (\
 
...Let's just say, I'm glad we already have Math.SE.
 
8:58 PM
@Shog9 Doesn't Joel check potential new hires for susceptibility to Meta before extending offers?
 
Anonymous
(That makes the second time I've ever used that emoticon. Both times being on this site in this room.)
 
Wiat is that unhandled?
*wait
 
@Aarthi Not you too!
 
Shh I love this show.
 
@TimStone technically she's not a brony
 
8:59 PM
It's amazing
 
@PopularDemand I don't know what Joel was thinking with @aarthi. I... just... don't... know
 
Truth. As a lady, I can't be a bro ny
 
Anonymous
It is pretty fantastic.
 
brany?
 
Ouch, @shog, too far
 
9:00 PM
Yeah, it'd have to be sis... hm, better not finish that.
 
Anonymous
> If I had to pick something to complain about, this would be [the association bonus]. There are a surprising number of people who vote without posting, and they skew voting in various annoying ways.
 
Anonymous
- Qiaochu Yuan (MO user, Math.SE mod, and SEI intern)
 
Anonymous
So not an original idea of mine. :P I'll drop the subject now.
 
@jcolebrand For what it's worth, I've had some... friction... with 2.0 sites, too. I definitely went into them with some preconceived expectations, and things just didn't go well. That's what led to this question:
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Q: Individual community preferences vs. SE network policy: who wins?

Popular DemandIn the recent question Where can I ask a question about advice for my job?, the OP asks where the following question would be appropriate: What would be the best way to approach someone that works for me about bad odor? CHAOS team member Abby Miller responded by suggesting the proposal The ...

 
@PopularDemand sure, but that's my point. They need to be a Q&A site, but after that, it's highly unlikely SE is just going to shut them down
@TheElementofMagic it's a highly valid question you know
 
9:09 PM
You ever push a commit without testing your merge first because the app performs so slowly you want to stab every computer in sight? I just did.
 
@mootinator noooooooooo
 
Eh... Seems to work this time.
 
> There are a few sites I really like, for example TeX, where the only reason I've never asked a question there is that all my questions have already been asked and answered
This is a case where Henry Cohn would be well served by an association bonus
Because, he has the capacity to recognize things which should be upvoted, and is then given the capacity to upvote those things.
 
When using git rebase I like to pretend that while everyone else is running around committing things every 5 minutes, I slack off most of the day then quickly implement a complex feature and get it right the first time.
 
@mootinator Yeah, I know the feeling :D
 
9:52 PM
after seeing Aarthi and The Element of Magic avas, I think I am finally convinced that this is a good idea
 
Anonymous
 
You mean it isn't going to actually use the physics theme?
 
ugh, that theme looks horrible compared to the other SE sites
especially that larger bar on top is somehow odd
 
Anonymous
I think it's a bit broken right now.
 
yeah, and possibly unfinished
 
Anonymous
I see some elements that are clearly misaligned.
 
10:42 PM
Presumably the goal was consistency, not "Jin, how sexy can you make research-level mathematics look?"
 
Anonymous
I like the site keeping its style.
 
@PopularDemand You mean the site won't have the tag line "Quadratify my equation"?
 
 
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