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12:36 AM
@animuson Thanks... I think...
 
12:52 AM
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Q: The "you don't have full edit privileges" message is very unnoticeable

animusonHonestly, I hadn't even realized it was there. The only reason I noticed it was because I though "hey, I don't think I have edit privileges yet" and looked for it. It's just plain text up at the top, and the text is awkwardly close to the top (shouldn't it have a top margin or something). It's ex...

 
1:10 AM
I actually want someone else to make me gourmet meals, and also to not spend a fortune doing so.
 
2:22 AM
:O REAL PEOPLE! I SEE YOU. Where is Rebecca!?
 
Anonymous
Fascinating.
 
Oh Shog talks about my complaints :o
 
@Shog9 Will you make us popcorn while we get settled in? (actually, the Electrical Engineering Town Hall is still on, so I'll have to take a look later)
 
I don't... like popcorn
How about caramel corn?
@animuson I don't just talk about them - I talk about them dismissively!
 
I still want my wall of text though. :( I set the custom pagesize variable to 100 when I'm reviewing.
 
2:35 AM
(er)
 
Somewhat confusingly, I don't either.
 
@animuson uh, not there?
 
Anonymous
No idea what "socially awkward penguin" is, eh?
 
Anonymous
You must spend a healthy amount of time on reddit.
 
2:57 AM
I had no idea what it was either. xD
How do you get invited to these chat events?
 
@animuson This was sort of an experimental, mod-only thing - it sat on our normal moderator chat-cast.
We may do more / different forms in the future
maybe
(hence my RFC)
 
I would participate in the future, if they were made public.
 
Interesting.
I don't think I trust the Git integration in IntelliJ
It keeps pushing new branches to the wrong origin.
 
Anonymous
3:17 AM
It made Robert seem like less of an eerie background figure.
 
Anonymous
Only heard him on the podcast once or twice, I think.
 
@mootinator Really? Hmm...
 
3:47 AM
@TimStone Yeah, I wonder if I have a log of that.
Other than the evidence trail in my public feed in GitHub O_o.
 
4:03 AM
I suppose it would be wise to attempt to reproduce that again, since it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the latest release.
 
4:35 AM
Ehh, maybe it is fixed, they just didn't want to mention it :P
 
 
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6:00 AM
I enjoyed watching that.
 
6:48 AM
Why on Earth is this being closed as not constructive: stackoverflow.com/questions/11681764/… ???
Of all the reasons...
 
6:59 AM
@Shog9 cool conversation IMO. Very insightful and balanced. It should be part of the general discussion on the topic... although it's probably too long to be watched by everyone
Side question: can I link to it in a possible Meta feature suggestion or do you want it to stay inside this chat room?
 
Link to the chat and say "you have to look in chat to get what I'm talking about" - perfect way to get some more people in here :D
 
7:51 AM
^ the blog of that microsoft person who was complaining about the browser detection is completely broken
 
Hmmm, Silverlight?
 
@TimYiJiang just no JavaScript
 
Ah, right, you have NoScript
 
but even facebook and twitter work without JS
 
Well, yeah, I'd expect the slideshow to not work without JS
 
7:57 AM
yeah but it'd be nice to have some content still
 
Ughh I hate sites that don't work without JS, like that Kotaku or w/e site my friend links me to all the time. Just shows a blank page.
 
Come on now, without JS Facebook goes into "Facebook for Symbian 60 Phones" Mode :P
(I think)
Does it really work well enough to be usable without JS?
 
@TimYiJiang it's perfectly readable. some interactions work too.
 
Also, I'd think Twitter would be broken without JS - the stupid #! URL thingies
 
the mobile version is fine without js
@TimYiJiang you lose live updates but that's about it
 
7:59 AM
It's one thing not to be useable without JavaScript, but displaying absolutely nothing without JavaScript is horrible practice.
 
I only installed noscript because of oracle and the cookie law
their "do you consent to cookies?" thing was so broken if you had 3rd party cookies blocked (which I'd had blocked for ages) that it made the whole page unusable, covering it with a totally blank box. So they were either forcing you to re-enable 3rd party cookies or disable JS. I whet down the whitelisting JS road and found it surprisingly pleasant
 
Ha! Well, the cookie law is an EU law, so blame them
I have been closing those "If you continue to use this site you agree to let us use cookies" boxes everywhere now
 
@TimYiJiang my plan was to make a formal complaint about oracle if it was still broken after 6 months
 
I suppose it's one way to keep web developers employed
 
my "do you consent to a cookie" on one of my sites has a post back for "no"
which as far as I can tell is entirely compliant still
 
8:04 AM
Heh, what does it do if you press no?
 
@TimYiJiang it skips the google analytics and instead posts back to record stats on the opt out
I just record a count of "no"s so far since that's not evil
but most people seem to ignore or click yes if you ask the right question
 
You know, the funny thing is every time I open a Microsoft site, I get an alert saying "The target of the callback cannot be found"
I think I should poke around to see what's causing it.
So far Adblock has been ruled out
Strange, a search through every JS and HTML file loaded doesn't seem to reveal a source for this alert
 
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Q: The Target Of The Callback Could Not Be Found

Abrian StemmetI have been getting this popup message for a while now and was wondering if someone had some insight into why this is happening. When browsing to a Microsoft Website a popup appears stating: The target of the callback could not be found. Why is this happening? I went to this site today and found...

@Flexo Also, the formatting on the original question makes my eyes bleed
 
the suggested it it got was a prime candidate for "too minor" if ever I saw one.
oh OP accepted it
 
9:13 AM
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Q: Alternative format for QA

ZolomonAn alternative way of asking and answering questions Everything from step 2-6 can happen concurrently with other people. You ask a question. An Answerer signs up to answer the question. A chat[1] is created, both can speak in fluid form to each other. Once chat is completed between two people ...

am I missing something there?
 
 
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10:13 AM
@Flexo gone
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Q: JQuery Mobile Phone gap: Split view using asyraf9 example not working

VijayI want to implement a split view using jQuery Mobile and PhoneGap in iPad. Many sites recommended asyraf9's https://github.com/asyraf9/jquery-mobile/ I have downloaded the zip file it has bundle of files in it. In the folder demos\experiments\ I saw the a "splitview" directory. I used the conten...

 
Yeah. I think the OP must have been on the receiving end of some accept nagging somewhere.
 
yeah
 
11:10 AM
 
@nhahtdh I would have rejected regardless of the technical content because they put "edit" in the text. If you can't integrate it without things like that then there's a problem with the premise of the edit to begin with.
 
That aside - should an update to the software status be reflected in the question?
I think not
 
Besides that the statement is wrong. Only <?= is always enabled, but not <?
 
It got approved anyway - need someone with domain knowledge to clean up...
 
Besides that, this question receives a lot of traffic (#4 in google when searching for "php short open tags") so mentioning it either in the question or in the accepted answer does make sense
I've removed the edit and commented on the accepted answer that it would be a good idea to include this information in there.
 
11:24 AM
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Q: Can't logout the site

YehonatanIt is really freaking me out and I'm so pissed. How for god sake I logout this site? There is no logout button, When I delete my cookies the keep coming back! how for god sake I can logout? EDIT: I found the logout button but it keeps logging me in!

 
...
 
there's a space at the end of the title of the duplicate I proposed which broke the markdown link somehow.
(edited to fix it manually)
 
11:49 AM
What's the policy on link only tag wiki edit (first edit)?
 
@nhahtdh I'd say too minor or not helpful unless it really is something that 5 seconds with google wouldn't reveal
 
One such crap got approved
But it doesn't do any damage, so it's fine anyway
 
@Pekka - I like your suggestion, but can we have an artists impression of what a "SWAT team of nice" might look like? It conjurers up some interesting mental images.
 
12:24 PM
@Flexo that's indeed very difficult to come up with.
Maybe like this?
 
how should one quote from source in tag wiki excerpt?
 
notice how they smile.
Seriously though, they would mainly be there and provide firm but friendly guidance to newbies in comments. Pretty much what many of us do already, but there's simply too many stuff coming in to keep up with it.
> The SWAT team of nice. They teargas and break into the house of incivility, shoot the dog of rudeness, and use excessive force on the suspect, who represents... umm..... unfriendliness.
ok, fail
 
12:39 PM
Hmm, the Stack Exchange servers are 15 seconds in the future, according to my clock.
I suspect a conspiracy between the time server and the rate limiter to throw me off.
 
How paranoid of you. Obviously, the conspiracy is from whoever is running the time-space continuum.
 
But the rate limiter is my mortal enemy :O
 
Oh, I didn't realize the rate limiter had motive. You're probably right, then. Carry on.
 
@TimStone chat or Q&A?
 
Q&A
I thought it was me originally, but syncing my clock actually made it worse.
 
12:47 PM
checking
hmm, I checked both web servers you were hitting, their clocks are correct
 
Weird.
 
what exactly makes you think they're off?
 
I'm posting digest answers, but I can only post them every two minutes due to rate limiting. If I click the submit button when the second hand hits the minute, the server reflects the post time as fifteen seconds after the fact (and it certainly doesn't take that long for the answer to post)
(or it does and I'm in some sort of space-time distortion where I don't realise it, I guess >_>)
Like I just hit the submit button at 12:59:37, and the reflected post date is 12:59:54 (two minutes, two seconds after the previous answer's post date)
Hmm
Apparently the time reported by time.nist.gov is about fifteen seconds behind the time on my iPhone. Switching to time.windows.com seems to have brought things back in line.
So apparently it was actually a government conspiracy, @jadarnel27.
 
1:11 PM
It always comes back to that. We should have known all along.
 
2:00 PM
Hmmm. I thought that help wasn't allowed in titles.
 
-_-
 
3:12 PM
I love getting specific, helpful feedback =/
> ..the add selected item to cart button…..can you make it look better
^Actual e-mail I got from someone just now.
 
it never ceases to amaze me how vague people can be without realising it
 
@jadarnel27 Just pretend you read it as "Can you make it look butter?" and go from there.
 
"Yes, if you send me $$$"
 
@Flexo Very true, I think people just don't see how unhelpful they are being =)
@TimStone Hahaha. "Josh, why did you make all the buttons yellow, and change the text to 'I Can't Believe It's Not butter In My Cart Already!â„¢'?"
 
3:35 PM
It'd be epic
 
It totally would be.
 
Soooo.
How is everyone today.
 
I'm livin' the freakin' dream over here.
You?
 
I'm living a freakin' dream here.
I'm fairly certain it's some demented person's dream though.
 
what is with the recent outbreak of random-boldification-itus?
 
3:45 PM
I have no idea what you mean.
Perhaps everyone has been wearing Old Spice. Yes, that's a shark I'm jumping over.
6
 
4:12 PM
Would you call this an answer: stackoverflow.com/questions/4016117/…
 
I wouldn't.
Ooh I apparently need to claim a prize from apple.com.somerandomletters.com. I have a good feeling about this.
 
Hahah. I got a text message like that the other day.
@nhahtdh I wouldn't either. If you remove all the fluff, it's just says "I think the other answer is correct because blah blah". So it's sort of a duplicate of that answer. But mostly it should be a comment somewhere.
 
I think it can be a good answer if it cleans up all the references to other answers.
I'm not sure about the content, though
 
Jun 26 at 16:12, by jadarnel27
I should definitely click on this link to bestbuy.com.biz.info, because I don't understand how URLs work, so it looks really official.
 
4:20 PM
Ahh, yes.
 
So many NAA
 
Anonymous
4:59 PM
Can someone send me an @ message (here in chat) to test browser notifications?
 
@jeremybanks I will.
Maybe.
 
Anonymous
Thanks. Just installed Mountain Lion. Nice to see that Chrome is using the new notifications system.
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
Bah. stack.imgur is converting large PNGs into JPEGs, just like real Imgur.
 
@jeremybanks Ha, very cool man.
Wow, a 2-pack of 6' HDMI cables for $6? That's quite a deal.
Makes me wish I hadn't just bought one at The Shack the other day >.<
 
5:23 PM
Make me wonder why the normal price is so high, just for a ******* cable
 
I think that's really strange as well.
 
At least it isn't a monster cable.
My wife fell for the "you need this $85 3 foot HDMI cable which won't reach your TV" pitch.
At least it's wrapped in kevlar though. Wouldn't want to have to buy a new one if someone, say, shot at it.
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5:40 PM
@mootinator Your summary of that pitch doesn't make it sound very appealing =)
 
> So I finally decided to pick up a Monster cable after the big box store clerk kept parroting marketing material in hopes I would feed his family with the commissions off the purchase. I picked it up, took it home, unplugged the $12 HDMI cable I had previously used between my PS3 and my HDTV, and connected the Monster cable. Pressed the ON button, and WOW.

What's not so great about it? NO DIFFERENCE. None. Not even a little. As far as picture and audio performance goes, this did absolutely nothing to improve the experience. In fact, knowing what I paid for the cable may have actually ruin
 
 
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7:46 PM
RAWR!
 
Anonymous
Boo
 
hiss
 
...double rawr?
 
8:04 PM
I probably shouldn't troll the local police on Twitter.
 
That does sound like it could be problematic.
 
@mootinator That indirectly reminds me of this nefarious Canadian crime
 
@jadarnel27 It just annoyed me that they seemed proud to announce that they were cracking down on people stopped at red lights sending text messages.
Like they couldn't think of something with even less net benefit to society to do with their time.
 
Outside of potentially not seeing the light turn green and pissing off the person behind you, what possible harm could texting while stationary have?
 
That's what I wonder.
 
8:19 PM
I fully agree. What a nonsensical waste of effort.
 
Could be dangerous if you have poor proprioception.
Ever seen someone holding something in one hand and get distracted by a TV (or whatever) and slowly let the grasping hand droop or otherwise change position?
Someone could get engrossed in a text conversation and slowly let his foot off the brake, causing his car to roll into the intersection.
Not saying it would happen to you, or me, or most people... but I could definitely see it happening to a non-trivial number of people.
 
I'd still prefer resources were spent rebuking behavior likely to cause injury/property damage.
Like having children in the vehicle.
Children should be banned from vehicles.
:P
 
Seems kind of unsafe to allow someone like that to drive in the first place, heh. I imagine that scenario would then be plausible with any sort of distraction that caused them to take focus off keeping their foot on the brake, which there's many of while stopped at intersections.
@mootinator for mayor - he's tough on kids, so you don't have to be.
 
@mootinator I interpreted "having children in the vehicle" incorrectly the first time I read that haha.
Although I think that would be even more dangerous.
 
makes a mental note to keep his children away from @jadarnel27.
 
8:28 PM
Haha, I meant that I mis-parsed "having children in the vehicle" as "children being birthed in the vehicle" =)
 
Oh, that happens all the time around here.
They're usually stopped.
One of the perks of living in the middle of nowhere.
 
makes a mental note to keep himself away from stopped vehicles in Canada.
 
Hmm, EL&U is one candidate short of needing a primary.
Should be an entertaining Town Hall...
 
Evan Carroll still running?
 
A primary would be great to weed out this guy..
 
8:32 PM
@DanielFischer What kind of election would it be if the voice of the people wasn't there to be heard?
 
An om nom nominator election.
 
Then it'll sure be an entertaining Town Hall. Annoying, but entertaining.
 
@mootinator You've reminded me that I'm starving.
 
I'll make the popcorn.
It will be the beginning of the RevEL&Ution!
To paraphrase Ron Paul.
 
8:55 PM
 
That seems pretty plausible.
Although he says those votes are listed as being included on the audit page.
 
They're listed in the reputation history. The audit never listed them, and even after the audit they're still listed in the reputation history, though the reputation is not actually counted.
 
Yeah, I got confused by the comments somehow.
 
> Also, please no snarky comments because it's very important that I get this to work in the near future.
(in this question) - did they read the blog post and end up in fear of snarky comments?
@DanielFischer I really don't understand why he pick ELU and not SU to run for
and his answer to my question about that is well ... pompous?
 
Must...resist...trolling...police...again...
 
9:12 PM
the other nomination I commented on didn't reply either
 
@Flexo I can't make sense of his answer, but then, that's normal.
 
9:50 PM
Wuzzat?
 
The spambot forgot to include links for all the random text :o
 
I thought it was a genuine human rant
 
Hey chaps
 
hi
(I read your "about me" and smiled when I saw: "Learning to love FORTRAN" right after "physics").
 
10:24 PM
rep capped, flags gone, votes gone, see you tomorrow :)
 
including close and delete votes?
what about comment votes? :o
Push it to the limits!!!
 
11:04 PM
and spam votes!
 

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