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4:33 AM
It consolidated
Id consolidated
*constructor*
BUG REPORT: trying to post a comment containing *constructor* fails in a suspicious manner
(that is, the word "constructor" surrounded by asterisks such as to make it italicized)
 
5:07 AM
wow; that is crazy
 
ain't it though?
 
Looks like it causes a Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined
it doesn't even try to send it; very odd...
 
5:43 AM
rofl
$("body").append("constructor");
jQuery is busted
buildFragment() - utility function within jQuery, used to take a string argument (assumed to be a HTML fragment) and create an actual document fragment from it
it caches the fragment results for small strings for performance reasons
 
You've spoilt my debugging fun now :(
;p
 
hey, i took the dog for a walk first
(and had to step through minimized jQuery)
so anyway... the cache is the usual JavaScript thing where you take advantage of a raw object and string keys
but... all objects have a constructor property
 
makes sense
 
so when the fragment is "constructor", it thinks there's a cached fragment
 
and tried to append the constructor function itself
 
5:54 AM
yup
boom!
 
Nice job guys. Works great in Chrome.
 
@Shog9 - just... crazy. Anyway, the fix is on the way through the build server.
However, can I ask that you don't send any test demos...
as it will break anyone who hasn't done a hard-F5
 
 
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5:11 PM
An underscore and an arrow pointing up isn't really indicative of "leaving"...
Maybe a open door?
 
5:47 PM
whoa.
I agree with @Hello71
Some sort of Door with an arrow pointing out of it.
 
6:03 PM
hmm, the UI changed
ohhhhh, the switch room link got a lot smaller and half of it replaced with a leave link
Was there feedback that the leave room needed to more easily accessible? I'd think it would be a less-used feature. Switch rooms is the big one and making that link smaller just makes it harder to click
 
these icons make no sense to me
how small does your screen need to be that you can't just use text?
 
I thought it saying "Switch to this room" or whatever but not being always visible was bad enough.
Not sure why it needs to be hidden.
 
@balpha it'd be nice if we could hide the starred posts box, or shrink the size of the right side bar
feel free to /kick me for suggesting
 
← 2 messages moved from The Tavern (General)
 
Hi.
 
6:17 PM
@balpha the "*2 messages moved from*" link shoud highlight the moved messages when hovered over (like a reply)
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or @marc. Same comment. But more respectful.
 
@devinb they aren't there to highlight any longer
 
@Fosco moved from i suspect is the one he was referring to
 
oops.. sorry
 
@Fosco in "chat Feedback" it says "2 messages moved from"
 
6:30 PM
eh, @balpha, bug w/ "other rooms you're in" and message attribution
 
Hey! I wrote that message
 
Hey! I thought you were leaving
 
You're right. Have a good one buddy. Thanks for reminding me :)
 
;-p
 
heh, clicking a link to a chat room opens a new tab >_<
 
6:34 PM
@Shog9 couple messages later, the "last message" disappears entirely. Refreshing the page picks up the real latest message (w/ correct attribution)
 
@balpha, @marc is there a meta question or a chat transcript regarding the leave/switch links? i'd be curious to read that before posting about wanting to go back to what got removed...
 
@rchern go right ahead, I'm not a big fan either
@Shog9 yes, we have recently changed the client <-> server communication (hence the "please reload" notification earlier)
still needs some adjustment on the client
 
I found this on meta, probably why it got moved to the right of the room name, though not why it is hidden by default.
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Q: Last message on room popup hides switch room link.

C. RossIn the current version of chat, the last message feature on the room popup hides switch room link. This is frustrating b/c I have to go out of the room to get to my other room, instead of simply switching.

Oh, and that reminds me...
 
@rchern no, that refers to the "switch room" link in the popup
@rchern good point
 
ah, ok, there's still a link there too.
I'm guessing the onebox code looks for /questions/ but maybe with the addition of /q/? Not sure how often someone would use it in here.
 
6:41 PM
@rchern that's what I meant by "good point"
we havent added the short link yet
since that's a simple regex change from questions to q(?:uestions)?, that'll probably get fixed pretty soon :)
 
I figured...sounded like a simple regex change.
 
SO mods - what is the rational of developing a web based chat when IMs and IRC chat rooms are available?
... unless you'll be supporting external access to chats eventually
 
> Why don't you guys just use IRC, man? -- We're trying to build a system better and easier to use than IRC, that is native to modern web browsers. Will we support XMPP? We're not sure yet. In the meantime, there is a nascent community project to create an IRC interface to our chat.
 
@synhershko have you used IRC?
 
a la Google Wave?
@Shog9 hehe yes, I'm at Efnet now if you want to check
 
6:45 PM
Wave is too awesome for this world
@synhershko naw, man... Just checking for Stockholm Syndrome... ;-)
 
@Shog9 rather, Wave is how e-mails should have looked like in the first place
 
 
its just too late to change this now...
 
@Fosco i kinda like that... but, I have waaay more horizontal screen space than i need (for chat)
 
@Fosco I assume you're dev'ing the chat; I think having all that info to the right of the screen is the correct way to go
 
6:49 PM
no im no dev, just a random photoshopper
 
too bad :)
 
@Fosco interesting idea. But in 95% of the cases, vertical space is scarcer than horizontal space
 
@balpha good point...
p.s. putting that together in GIMP was painful
 
just needs practice
 
no auto completion for user names
 
6:51 PM
please use this for exprimenting:
 
pitty
 

Sandbox

Playing around with formatting
 
oh, right, thx :)
 
@synhershko yes, there is
press tab
 
@balpha vertical space collapses better, I guess that's my only point. I am not complaining though, this is the greatest web chat app I've ever seen !!
 
6:51 PM
@balpha ayea
steep learning curve I'd say
 
dammit
i just left tavern by accident >_>
 
&rarr; 3 messages moved to Sandbox
 
@balpha I'd like a httpS version though..
muahaha
 
@Fosco if it's all gonna be indexed, what's the point?
 
@shog9 employer network
 
6:53 PM
ahh... Good thinking.
 
your boss might as well be chatting with us right here
 
@balpha: "other rooms you're in" sez:
> balpha: &larr; 3 messages moved from Chat feedback
HEY! Why are you passing through entities again?
 
@balpha: "other rooms you're in" sez: &larr;
except its an ampersand and larr;
 
yes, I whitelisted rarr and larr
also, I'm now officially against those mini icons
 
ok im leaving chat feedback before i give you a headache
 
6:56 PM
I just left this room by accident
 
hum. Well, you should whitelist 'em in the preview too then ;-)
yeah, icons are dangerous
 
It would appear that the timestamps in the catchup are off, by quite a bit.
 
@GeorgeMarian the catchup shows UTC
only the live chat times are localized
 
oic...that should be noted somewhere on the page :)
 
agreed
 
6:58 PM
It's a little odd to go away for 4 hours and come back to things that appear to have not occurred yet. :)
 
 
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@devinb I'm guessing that guy is an ex-Googler because the Wave project was killed.
 
@GeorgeMarian He's an internet comedy writer.
 
@devinb Ah, so it is supposed to be a parody.
 
yes
 
10:17 PM
oh god... SO has a chat now... my productivity at work is gonna hit the bottom now :D
 
@viraptor Yah, pretty much. :)
 
"- You're not doing any work." "- I'm on SO, that counts as programming!"
 
@viraptor LOL BTW this room is for talking about the chat system itself. Checkout The Tavern: chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/89/the-tavern-general
 
thanks
 

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