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1:15 PM
oh
this is a room
 
We're allowed to make random rooms?
 
yeah
 
Haha yeah I didn't realize that either
 
I assume
 
Just put me in the third year or something...
 
1:17 PM
so if you're interested, say something to that effect
k
 
I still need to learn how to play
 
basic rules for participating: know how to play
:P
 
I need to relearn how to play, yeah :P
 
I'm also learning, but know enough on how to play ;)
 
I propose using the latest version as of today
 
1:18 PM
yeah, I think I'll go through the wiki or whatever
I'll lurk for now.
 
0.31.12
 
now I need some way to keep track of my rooms.. this is confusing
 
one week per turn/year seems to be standard
 
I'm mostly wondering if they'll let this room stay open :o I didn't realize that users could just create random rooms that aren't directly related to the site's workings.
 
Tavern, sandbox, etc
there's a handful already
 
1:21 PM
We need chat.gaming.stackexchange.com
 
Version to use: 0.31.12 as packed in the Lazy Newb Pack!
 
Interesting, you can see what's being said in other rooms you're in
 
hey yeah, that's useful
 
Think I might still keep them in separate tabs anyway, but that's neat
 
Hey, I'm interested in this.
What graphics set is in this screenshot?
 
1:32 PM
@Fallen - the room is fine. Eventually you'll get a separate chat site, but nit quite yet.
 
And another question: That Lazy Newb Pack is full of Windows stuff. The save file will run in vanilla Linux df 0.31.12, right?
 
Ah okay, good to know :)
 
@Macha aye.. also, it does contain some .NET stuff, but I'm not sure about the DLLs it comes with
@Macha Phoebus
 
@Macha yes, adjusting but adjusting the included DF install for linux is easy. (because that's all you need.)
 
I used to use the Mayday graphics set, but it replaces some of the important symbols with pictures
(e.g. The . for one-step becomes a grass patch, the +/- for list navigation become Smoothed Stone/Something else. And it ruins accents in names.
 
1:36 PM
@Macha Any tileset ruins accents
The game uses ó and ò for both letters and levers, for example
so any ó will look like a turned-off lever in the units section
 
@alexanderpas I have df 0.31.12 installed on Linux already. The question was: Do I need to use the Lazy Newb Pack to play?
 
if you world generate with raws ajusted for the tileset, accents won't be used for names.
 
@alexanderpas true
I can't believe I didn't notice that
 
Ah. I went text->Mayday->text with the one save file.
 
I did the first time too
well, I loaded a save from the internet
 
1:38 PM
@Macha No, everything is included in the save
 
even the tileset would be, would it not?
 
@alexanderpas Phew.
 
Differences beween vanilla linux & Windows:
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Q: Can I run both Windows and Linux Dwarf Fortress from the same directory?

Arda XiThe reason I'm asking this is because I want to play Dwarf Fortress mainly on my main Windows computer, but I'd also like to be able to continue the same save from my Linux VPS. I already know how to synchronise the folder, but I'm just wondering if I might run into any trouble by running both W...

@ArdaXi no, but it is not neccesary.
 
so, is there a succession game going on?
 
developing for linux on windows, is that some kind of F/OSS sin?
 
1:40 PM
@ArdaXi It is, but (and this might just be because the Linux version i what I'm using), it's ignored for the main config file
 
@CRoss Not yet
 
bw, are caverns usually 20 levels high? The wiki implies they are usually around 3, if I'm reading it right.
 
@Macha No, there are 3 caverns usually.
they are pretty high yes
 
The one in my fort is almost entirely split in two
I went about 7 levels down from the highest level before seeing it
 
two caverns?
 
1:42 PM
(the highest cavern level)
No, it's connected, but it's U shaped for most of its upper floors
 
I use my cavern for a well source
 
I directed some of the river underneath my fort
 
any idea in what kind of a biome we're going to play?
 
Annoys me now, because I've a line of places where dwarves cancel digging every single tile because there is water underneath them
 
@alexanderpas Something not too evil I would hope
I don't want walking carp
 
1:46 PM
Something where we don't have to dig all the way to the magma sea for magma
 
@Macha believe me. you don't want to use a volcano
poor Urist McFlammable
 
I engraved every tile of my main dining area to get it to a better room. It is now _ugly_ in every tileset :(. The one part of the game's graphics that annoy me. Smoothed always looks so much better than engraved.
 
@Macha Engraved is smooth with lines in mine
 
Which set is that?
 
Phoebus
 
1:49 PM
Engraved is pictures of stuff with grey backgrounds in both text and Mayday.
 
just less pink
 
Not bad.
 
plus the symbols are really useful
 
I've got a ton of mining tasks designated and my dwarves are determined to go about in the most inefficient way possible
One tile here, one tile 3 floors down and at the other side of the map...
 
that's dorfs for you
 
1:53 PM
I say, 3x3, sand layer, flux layer, Wilderness, Sparse+ wood, Scarce+ vegitation, no aquifer, river.
3
 
so everyone here is going to join?
 
Except for me.
 
you have about x weeks where x is the amount of people joining to learn ;-)
 
@ArdaXi yes, year three or something please.
 
Fair enough. I'm going through a tutorial atm
 
1:55 PM
who's going to start?
 
Where are we going to post the AARs?
Chat makes it hard to find old ones.
 
the what nows?
 
The summaries of your turn
(AAR = After Action Report)
 
we have a blog, don't we?
 
yup!
 
1:57 PM
You know, I haven't legitimately used my Craftdwarf's workshop since my finished goods pile filled up. Yet every mood ends up claiming it..
 
it's the default mood shop
for any dorf that hasn't a good workshop
 
Also, messing around with the burrows now. They're rather complicated :(
 
blog?
 
@Macha what's complicated about 'dorfs! get in here and don't go out!'?
 
120 of them, with no prior designations and rooms already assigned.
 
2:00 PM
what do you need a burrow for?
 
We have a gaming.se unofficial blog now
 
meeting, be back after lunch
 
The game needs a find dwarf's room button
 
who is doing worldgen?
 
I can, if you want.
 
2:01 PM
do you have the Lazy Newb Pack?
 
Actually, someone using that pack probably should instead
Yeah, just realised that.
 
the first person to play should do it :P
 
And I was getting some coding done earlier. 20 minutes in chat, and I'm playing Dwarf Fortress.
Yes, that is a damp stone. KEEP DIGGING! :(
 
heh, I have Big Bang Theory open on my other monitor so I have no space for DF
 
2:19 PM
Anyway, I'm off to actually finish that coding from earlier.
 
2:44 PM
Is it okay to start a fortress in an area where you have lots of river and forest, as well as no aquifer, but the temperature is Hot?
Apparently the river could dry up over the summer :< is that common at that temperature?
 
Hot is acceptable, murky pools dry, rivers unaffected.
 
Cool.
 
As long as there is a river it's preferable to stay in a hot area, unless your fortress is prone to flooding
 
warm is the "neutral" zone.
 
2:54 PM
true, but it rains more in warm
 
talking about rain... stupid dwarven trick: Rain collector.
 
besides, I've been living off a hot biome with only murky pools for 3 years now
they never evaporate.. except those parts that filled with lava
although they didn't really evaporate so much as solidify
of course, now that I need a way to throw the fortress into complete lockdown I use a well connected to underground cavern
 
3:09 PM
I need to move my main hall down a few levels.
Rip out the whole level and replace it with defenses.
ATM, there is a bridge and few cave traps and a staircase, and other than that it's a straight line to my main hall.
Admittedly, nothing has gotten in there, but..
 
my main level is on the same level as the entrance, but the entrance itself is an underground hallway
just filled it with cave traps, got me one elephant so far
 
I got attacked by a titan. Luckily, it was a water titan. And died in one hit
Later a dragon, which died, but took half my military and burned the land on the same level as my entrance
 
titans usually come from the other side
 
And now there is a blob of some sort roaming the caverns somewhere.
Do dead dwarves fully decompose eventually? I've got several in my plumbing :P
 
3:25 PM
eventually.. along with your dwarfs moods
 
3:40 PM
How many layers down did you have to go for magma @ArdaXi ?
 
err.. I think 70 or so
 
Ahh.
 
magma pools might have been higher
but I started at a volcano so I didn't look for magma
 
kk
 
Arda
 
3:44 PM
Mana
 
we're discussing that SC2 question in Gaming
kind of
by that SC2 question I mean that Windows key question
 
SC2 is kinda in my ignored tags :P
 
:<
 
WTF? Military? Attack? Maybe? Like, now?
WHY WON'T THEY LEAVE THAT DINING HALL?
Right, squad a has suffered an attack of collective idiocy, time to bring out squad b.
Finally...
 
4:04 PM
party time!
 
 
5 hours later…
9:04 PM
So, has anyone generated the save yet?
 
nope, not yet.
 
:(
 
 
3 hours later…
11:40 PM
...I'm just going to stare at this empty room, as less irritating than the other at the moment.
 
11:53 PM
gives hug
 

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