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9:08 AM
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact From what I can understand, this seems nice! Hope you'll have fun with it :)
 
9:38 AM
Time for more bright pink garden flowers!
I really should plant other colors XD
 
 
5 hours later…
2:21 PM
@Tinkeringbell My wallet said it's not nice. D;
 
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Eh yeah well sometimes the wallet doesn't get to complain XD
Mine will probably complain about the solar panels + airconditioning too :P
 
@Tinkeringbell Oh, dear, you're getting that for me? Thanks! :D
 
Hahaha I'd love to some philantropy later in life, right now I'm not wealthy enough for that I'm afraid :P
These are going to be for me ;)
 
Hrmpfh!
Do you have space to install them, though?
 
Yes, I have been graciously given permission to put them on the roof (of the upstairs neighbors :P)
And the airconditioning goes on the wall next to the front door. High up, so it won't blow hot air all over my precious plants and kill those :)
 
Zoe
2:34 PM
I bought a window unit to survive the summer
 
I already feel like I'm making a financially horrible decision though, as the car lease (getting a lease car from work) expires in Oct '25 and I would really like to just buy said car then. But that requires so much savings XD
@Zoe Oh, you got one? Nice! Did you get it delivered or manage to haul it home yourself?
 
Zoe
@Tinkeringbell It hasn't arrived yet. Moving 30kg 900m feels like a friday me problem
 
Hahaha well good luck then! :)
 
Zoe
Thanks, I'll need it
 
If you can get a friend, there are straps that make moving such things 'easy' ;)
 
Zoe
2:40 PM
I have a bike. I'll figure something out
 
Ooh, I like that. That sounds almost Dutch :P
 
Zoe
The cargo thing is only rated for 15kg though, but I'm sure it'll be fine. I'm not gonna ride it with something that big on the back anyway
 
Should work. I've had 50kg+ friends on the back of mine (rated up to 25kg) :P
 
Zoe
I've done 20kg on it before IIRC, but that's only 30% above the limit, not twice as much as the limit
 
3:16 PM
@Tinkeringbell Hot air? I thought they're for cold air.
@Zoe How nice of you to buy me that. Thanks.
I'm already dying in today's heat.
The two prior days were worse. 19 degrees.
Truly murdering me.
Worst was playing BF4 yesterday. Apparently, the best radiator in my apartment is the TV.
 
Zoe
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact No. ACs, invertible or otherwise, have one cold side and one warm side. When cooling the inside, that means the warm side is outside, so the fan blows warm air. When heating, the cold side is outside, so the fan blows cold air (which is required to maintain enough heat energy for the heat extraction to function)
 
@Zoe Let me be illogical about it. ;)
 
Zoe
They are basically just heat concentrators. The only difference is where the heat is dumped
 
@Zoe No... That's not going to work.
If you could have 30 kg in a backpack, sure.
A clunky, large item with sharp edges and no handles? You can give up already.
 
Zoe
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Worked with my computer, and worked with both my monitors. I basically just use it as a glorified cart. Hasn't failed me so far
 
3:22 PM
mhm. I opted for home delivery of my new computer, for 100 NOK extra. I don't wanna drag that stuff around the city.
 
Zoe
I don't like home delivery. I'm fine moving it myself
 
Mrs. Must do it all herself?
 
Zoe
That strategy has worked for like 4 years
 
Good luck, then.
Do you have somebody to call if it doesn't work out?
Right, your boyfriend.
Problem solved, then.
 
Zoe
He's around 10 hours away by flight. It'll be fine though
 
3:25 PM
@Zoe He's whaaaaaat? Why?
Exchange student?
 
Zoe
Nope
 
Not Norwegian?
 
Zoe
oh, and those 10 hours aren't actually 10 hours after getting on a plane. It includes transport to and from the airport, and assumes a best-case for a connecting flight (because there aren't any direct flights)
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Correct
 
@Zoe Ah. So same situation as me for 2 years.
Have you met physically, yet?
 
Zoe
The closest solution would be my mom, at around 1.5 hour away by car, but that's still not viable. It's just 900m - I can do that with a suboptimal solution in like 15-20 minutes at most
 
3:29 PM
@Zoe mhm, that sucks.
 
Zoe
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact yep, last year
 
@Zoe :) I met her at the start of the corona times, so I was quarantined in a hotel for a week first time I visited her. She walked me from the bus station to the hotel, though.
Anyway, those times have passed.
 
Zoe
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Eh, it's fine. And the main options aren't via Oslo, so this is actually the second best option to a direct flight :p
 
@Zoe Still. Oslo isn't that bad, though. It's quite a fine airport, actually.
 
Zoe
It fucking sucks for transfer
Going to it is fine, going from it is fine, but going via it is just bad
 
3:37 PM
@Zoe Hasn't been a problem for me.
I've been to a few awful airports, and Gardermoen is not one of them.
Even Amsterdam Schiphol is worse.
 
Zoe
Never been to it
 
It's still quite fine, though.
Nothing beats the British airports in terms of awful.
Oh, and also been stuck in a tiny airport in Croatia.
I can't remember other ones I've been to.
Well, the old Flesland terminal. Super cramped. That's been quite horrible.
Better these days-
 
Zoe
Right, Bergen
Went there once, but not to the airport
 
Beatiful fjords, islands and mountains. Awful people.
 
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact the outside part blows hot air, the inside part blows cold air
 
3:47 PM
@Tinkeringbell In total, it produces more heat than cold. Imagine if everyone abandoned cooling equipment; we'd reduce the increase in global warming. :O
 
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Yeah, you know, that should've been considered by everyone that had one before I got mine then. I'm not going to suffer now that it's already too late.
 
@Tinkeringbell Let's amend our constitutions with a ban on global warming. I'm sure it'll fix the issue, so you can feel cold in your apartment again. ;)
 
I would honestly love that.
But not in constitutions... that's not what constitutions are for.
 
4:06 PM
I think our constitution contains some laws about it? At least, the right to a life free of climate changes, or so.
 
Hmm.
When phrased like that it may suit in there. As far as I understand a constitution is mostly a 'social contract' between a 'government' and 'people', to allow them to organize into a 'state', describing the form of said state and the rights/duties of its citizens.
So things like Belgium did with adding animal welfare in there... seem out of line with that purpose
A 'generic' ban on global warming seems like it too, but something like the government having to guarantee a right to live without climate change may work.
 
Zoe
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact The increase from ACs is minimal. It's just heat concentration, so the total increase to heat is minimal. Resistor (i.e. electrical heat) and combustion-based (oil, gas, wood, coal) heating is far worse. Long-term, waste heat does actually pose a problem
But IIRC, we have at least a couple hundred years before that becomes applicable
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact I don't think it's the constitution. I think it might be human rights?
 
@Zoe They are in the constitution.
Indirectly.
 
Zoe
yeah, but indirectly doesn't count :p
 
Sure it does.
@Tinkeringbell A generic ban on global warming wouldn't fit in any law, but a ban on purposefully increasing it, and a requirement to prevent it, would be.
 
4:20 PM
Meh, 'purposefully' is too easily circumvented to be of any use. They'll just come up with another excuse.
 
5:13 PM
As happens.
 
Zoe
huh
Expected delivery for the AC was on Friday. It's been moved up to tomorrow now that it's actually in transit
Maybe I'll be able to survive tomorrow after all :p It's already 25 degrees inside
 
5:36 PM
Just drop it off at my place-
 
Zoe
No :P get your own, this one is mine
 
I'm broke, can't afford one.
 

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